Q&A: Christians /Theists: why does God have to be completely above and beyond nature in order to create nature?
Question by James: Christians /Theists: why does God have to be completely above and beyond nature in order to create nature?
After all, nature creates nature all the time.
Yet nature is not above nature.
I believe in God but I also believe in logic, reason and the reality that is all around me. When we observe both the beauty and horror of nature, that’s exactly what we are looking at. Nature. Nothing more, nothing less. All taking place in a regular, natural universe. It is not a corrupt or fallen one, just an amazing, beautiful and extremely dangerous universe as it was meant to be by God all along.
In reality (our physical universe), everything- the rocks, mountains, earthquakes, all manner of weather, all living organisms (including us, of course), the planets and stars are all created by natural processes. Nature creating nature.
Nature is atoms and forces like gravity which bind the atoms together to make molecules which in turn, gradually bind together to form everything from germs-to us-to galaxies.
This is a fact. To deny this, is to deny reality.
Therefore, if one is to believe in God then there are two different ideas to look at:
(A). God is not a machine of creation. Nature is the machine. It is this machine that God ultimately created to do all the physical work. It is not done supernaturally.
Or:
(B) Nature and God are one. However, God is nature at its highest and most complex level. Physical nature is like the body of God as it methodically goes along creating-destroying-creating everything in the universe as it slowly expands. However, there is a mind as well.
Our physical organic brains at their highest and most complex level form a mind, complete with consciousness. Maybe nature at its highest and most complex level forms a mind, complete with consciousness as well. The mind of God. This mind uses the rest of physical nature like a body to create the universe the way we use our own bodies to create.
Maybe it’s some sort of combination of these two ideas?
Anyway, rather than God creating the universe supernaturally in six earth days then taking a breather on the seventh, doesn’t it make a more sense that God is ultimately responsible for planting the seed to the universe then watching it grow naturally?
John M- so you agree with me when you say “It all started with a First Cause- “.
As I said, God is ultimately responsible for planting the seed of the universe then watching it grow naturally.
Best answer:
Answer by MK6
nature does NOT create nature, – it simply transforms it. (E=MC2)
But on another note, – our Creator can totally use the tools of super-naturalism AND naturalism to do His will. But in this earthly domain, Satan is the ruler of this world (system).
And even creation groans for redemption after the fall of Adam.
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